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cd disc properties
Feb 4th, 2010, 7:35pm
 
I recently bought a turntable (Sears) which converts the old records to cd's all in one step.
It works really good, I can put two records on one cd.
 
The thing I want to know; why can I not read the properties on the cd as I put in the cd drive of the computer to see how much has been used and how much space is left on the cd?
 
In "properties" it shows nothing; nothing used and nothing left.
How come?
 
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Reply #1 - Feb 6th, 2010, 1:03pm
 
Jack
 
With the CD in the machine,  
 
1. Go to Start
 
2. Click on "Computer"
 
3. Right click on the icon for your disc drive
 
4. Select Properties.
 
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Reply #2 - Feb 8th, 2010, 3:09pm
 
No, that is just the question I asked.
I have done all of these things, but it shows that there is no space left on the cd as well that there is nothing on the cd, yet it is fully loaded and plays well.
I will bring the disc Tuesday and let you look at it.
 
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Reply #3 - Feb 10th, 2010, 9:12am
 
I am glad I did bring my disc and got the answer to my question.
Someone in the adience told that if you copy songs on a cd and if you then finalize the cd, it will then look like the cd is full even if it is only half full.
(This is when you put the cd in the computer to check "properties")
 
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Reply #4 - Feb 12th, 2010, 3:24pm
 
Hi, I was your audience member who spoke up.  I thought that I would expand on my answer in writting.
  • When a music CD ( like those you purchase) is written, it is closed to a" Finalized" state. This means it is set  to read only and cannot be written on.  
  • Programs like Nero are able to create this type of CD so you can read them on any type of music CD reader. I suspect that your turntable to CD converter does this when you finish a recording session. There may be a way to tell how much more time is available on the CD, but this is most likely available from your converter.
  • It is possible when writing files to a CD on a Personal Computer to write it as a Data disc and to leave the disc open to be written on again later. This is normally referred to as a "multisession" disc. Otherwise it is closed from further writing and "Finalized". This "Finalized" state will allow this CD to be read by many other types of computer operating systems such as MAC, PC, Linux etc. The Open state (not "Finalized") may only allow the CD to be read or written on your computer.  
  • Viewing the properties of the CD on your PC
          If the CD is an Audio CD it will show both the size of the disc and the remaining free space to be zero. The Operating System cannot tell the total size of the audio files so it display's the total size as zero. (Incidently if you display the individual files on the PC they will often show up as 1K for the same reason)  Also since the disc is "Finalized" it will show zero bytes free since it cannot be written on again.
         If the CD is a Data CD the total size of all the files will show up and if you look on that CD you will see the size of each individual file. If the CD is not yet closed after a "multisession" write then there will still be free space showing. Otherwise if it is "Finalized" there will be zero free space showing and it will not be able to be written on again.
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Reply #5 - Feb 13th, 2010, 9:24am
 
Thank you soo much for your clarification.
You described exactly what is going on and that is what I wanted to understand.
The reason I wanted to  find out how much space was left after  
copying both sides of a record on the cd is to see if I could put more than one record on one cd.
By trial and error I have found that I can put 2 records on one cd.
 
It works just fine.
 
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Reply #6 - Feb 14th, 2010, 9:37am
 
If you want to see the standard for Audio CD's you can look at this link
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book(audio_Compact_Disc_standard)
 
The basic specifications simply state what is available on a Compact Disc for writing. It seems that you are mostly limited by a combination of tracks, index and time.  I have personally recorded 30 songs on an audio  CD but found that the CD player in my car would only see the first 23.  As you have found out it might require a trial and error test.  
I have recorded 1 hour plus Old time Radio shows on a CD but this was seen as only one track.  
 
 
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Reply #7 - Feb 14th, 2010, 9:50am
 
Ooops  my first try to add a link to a post I think the previous reply will not work. I copied the link below from Firefox and I believe that it should be OK. The page has a big white space in it when I use Internet Explorer, so scroll down if you want to see more details.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28audio_Compact_Disc_standard%29
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Reply #8 - Feb 16th, 2010, 8:28am
 
Thank you again for making things clear.
I think I have enough information to do what I am doing and that is to copy many of our favourite records on a cd, and it is working really good.
I have found that I can copy two complete records on one cd.
I have noticed that the recorder separates the files on some records but not on all.
On some records it shows only two tracks when it is all done.
However on others is shows up to 28 tracks.
All this is just fine with me as we just want to play our favourite cd's on the cd player.
I have also "ripped" some of the new cd's and converted them to play on my MP3 player, which of course is done on the computer.  
 
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